START/STOP button right next to ECO mode button.

[egolfer2]

Hi all,
Do you find the START/STOP button is too close to the ECO mode button?

If you forgot to change ECO mode to desired setting, tried to chance it while rolling and accidentally push the START/STOP button... Is this just me or have people encountered the same issue.


Thanks in advance for your inputs..

 

[f1geek]

No, I don't find this to be an issue. These two buttons are almost as close as the distance between my nose and mouth, and it is rare that I touch my mouth when reaching for my nose. Also, the buttons have different shapes, so I think it is hard to mistake one for other even when not looking. But, this is just my humble opinion.

 

[manybees]

I've noticed that and thought of it as a possible design flaw, but I so rarely use Eco mode that it's never been an issue for me.

What happens if you press the Start/Stop button while in gear and moving, anyway? I'm assuming that nothing should occur, correct? It seems to me that you shouldn't be able to turn the car off while moving.

 

[johnnylingo]

It's absolutely a design flaw. VW will weasel out of this by saying you "should only change driving modes when parked". Maybe if it remembered the mode after being turned off, this would be more plausible...

 

[Szyszka]

I see this topic pop from time to time and it always baffles me how's folks are finding those two buttons 'too close to each other.' When you're trying the MODE button for the first time while driving, yes it is really advisable to LOOK at what you're pressing. It really takes less than a second to visually confirm where you finger is. And please, don't say that this is a 'safety issue because you need to take your eyes off the road." Please.... Anyways, after two or three times, your hand will automatically navigate to the right button (the MODE one, NOT the "start/stop" one). And finally, when in doubt, do yourself a favor and CHECK (yes, by LOOKING) before randomly pressing whatever your finger is resting on. I don't know, maybe it's just me, maybe it's the fact that this is my second VW with the same exact button placement but personally, this is not an issue at all.

 

[JoulesThief]

I find it a non issue. I think the modes are a gimmick. Use some self restraint, and you can recreate the various modes yourself.

Secondly, read your owners manual. VW recommends when to change modes, and when not to. It's not "weaseling" out when you don't read the owners operating manual. As a pilot, try doing that in an airplane. inexcusable. POH always tells you what to do, and when.

 

[eGolfJoe]

Hi all,
Do you find the START/STOP button is too close to the ECO mode button?

If you forgot to change ECO mode to desired setting, tried to chance it while rolling and accidentally push the START/STOP button... Is this just me or have people encountered the same issue.


Thanks in advance for your inputs..

Yes and I found out what happens when you hit it twice in a row instead of the ECO button twice in a row - the powertrain turns off. You cannot accelerate and must coast and pull over to a complete stop, press the brake and restart the car. Thankfully I was able to coast over 2 lanes on the freeway to the shoulder to do this.

 

[egolfer2]

Yes, this is what I am talking about. 99 of 100 times you might look and hit the proper button and it will be fine... But there is that one time you might miss. So your car is rolling now, you stopped the motor and it won't start if it is not back in Park or Neutral. Best option is to put in Neutral and start it, but you might panic and put it in Park: this might do some damage the parking pawl... (assuming one exists in EV, same as in a ICE)

I think these thing should be designed so that 100 out of 100 times user will hit the right button... Not under the assumption that owner might have a previous VW or they know where their nose and mouth is n what not... Anyways thats my two cents.

Also may be we are expecting too much from the car manufacturers... Commercial air planes have flaws these days, so expecting these things to be perfect in a car might be a stretch...

 

[eGolfJoe]

Yes, this is what I am talking about. 99 of 100 times you might look and hit the proper button and it will be fine... But there is that one time you might miss. So your car is rolling now, you stopped the motor and it won't start if it is not back in Park or Neutral. Best option is to put in Neutral and start it, but you might panic and put it in Park: this might do some damage the parking pawl... (assuming one exists in EV, same as in a ICE)

I think these thing should be designed so that 100 out of 100 times user will hit the right button... Not under the assumption that owner might have a previous VW or they know where their nose and mouth is n what not... Anyways thats my two cents.

Also may be we are expecting too much from the car manufacturers... Commercial air planes have flaws these days, so expecting these things to be perfect in a car might be a stretch...

I now will only hit it once and then look at the screen to make sure I hit the right thing as I've also made the mistake of hitting the wrong button once even when fully looking at what I was pressing. That said, I rarely switch modes anymore - I can baby the throttle and get as good MPGe.

 

[JoulesThief]

Yes, this is what I am talking about. 99 of 100 times you might look and hit the proper button and it will be fine... But there is that one time you might miss. So your car is rolling now, you stopped the motor and it won't start if it is not back in Park or Neutral. Best option is to put in Neutral and start it, but you might panic and put it in Park: this might do some damage the parking pawl... (assuming one exists in EV, same as in a ICE)

I think these thing should be designed so that 100 out of 100 times user will hit the right button... Not under the assumption that owner might have a previous VW or they know where their nose and mouth is n what not... Anyways thats my two cents.

Also may be we are expecting too much from the car manufacturers... Commercial air planes have flaws these days, so expecting these things to be perfect in a car might be a stretch...

I now will only hit it once and then look at the screen to make sure I hit the right thing as I've also made the mistake of hitting the wrong button once even when fully looking at what I was pressing. That said, I rarely switch modes anymore - I can baby the throttle and get as good MPGe.

In other words, it's a gimmick.

 

[egolfer2]

Yes, this is what I am talking about. 99 of 100 times you might look and hit the proper button and it will be fine... But there is that one time you might miss. So your car is rolling now, you stopped the motor and it won't start if it is not back in Park or Neutral. Best option is to put in Neutral and start it, but you might panic and put it in Park: this might do some damage the parking pawl... (assuming one exists in EV, same as in a ICE)

I think these thing should be designed so that 100 out of 100 times user will hit the right button... Not under the assumption that owner might have a previous VW or they know where their nose and mouth is n what not... Anyways thats my two cents.

Also may be we are expecting too much from the car manufacturers... Commercial air planes have flaws these days, so expecting these things to be perfect in a car might be a stretch...

I now will only hit it once and then look at the screen to make sure I hit the right thing as I've also made the mistake of hitting the wrong button once even when fully looking at what I was pressing. That said, I rarely switch modes anymore - I can baby the throttle and get as good MPGe.

Yes, I am following the same and wouldn't bother changing it anymore...

 

[JoulesThief]

Yes, this is what I am talking about. 99 of 100 times you might look and hit the proper button and it will be fine... But there is that one time you might miss. So your car is rolling now, you stopped the motor and it won't start if it is not back in Park or Neutral. Best option is to put in Neutral and start it, but you might panic and put it in Park: this might do some damage the parking pawl... (assuming one exists in EV, same as in a ICE)

I think these thing should be designed so that 100 out of 100 times user will hit the right button... Not under the assumption that owner might have a previous VW or they know where their nose and mouth is n what not... Anyways thats my two cents.

Also may be we are expecting too much from the car manufacturers... Commercial air planes have flaws these days, so expecting these things to be perfect in a car might be a stretch...

I now will only hit it once and then look at the screen to make sure I hit the right thing as I've also made the mistake of hitting the wrong button once even when fully looking at what I was pressing. That said, I rarely switch modes anymore - I can baby the throttle and get as good MPGe.

Yes, I am following the same and wouldn't bother changing it anymore...

IMHO, it's nothing but sales gimmick. I never bother to change mine. Only thing I change with regularity when driving is D modes from D to D1, D2, and rarely D3. That's it. Maybe sometimes the HVAC temp and fan settings, if I am running those.