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Thanks for all the great information. It's quite a bit of confusing information even for an engineer! It sounds like I need a level 2 charger if I plan to get anywhere close to the full range of the car each day without recharging. Thankfully I work from home and most trips end right back in...

Considering a SE as a "drive kids around for activities" car. It will be used max 40-50 miles per day. Trying to understand charging times for the 3.6KW charger. Compared to an SEL, I was told: 1. Instead of taking 4 hours to charge on a 240 charger it now takes 8 hours 2. instead of taking...

I think it's probably the dealers trying to make the best out of non advertised lease structure. I'm sure the cap cost was changed a bit to get the rate closer to $200 per month. Tempted to pick up one of the remaining 2015 SELs despite the poor infotainment systems in the 2015s

Interestingly the deals don't look that good without the owner loyalty of $2000. For the SE, the lease rates seem to climb to $179/mo even though the extra discount of $2000 on the selling price should only translate to an increase of $40 or so per month for 36 months. Anybody know why?