2018 e-Golf to be sold Nationwide in USA

https://www.follownews.com/egolf-will-be-sold-nationwide-1x56g

I'm a bit skeptical on this 186 mile range figure. All the reports from a few months ago had it around 125, same as the 2017 i3, Focus, and Soul. VW could be setting themselves up for another consumer relations fiasco if they think pumping up the numbers to compete with the Bolt

The larger battery design is frozen and it will be 35.8kWh. The only question is whether that is gross or net usable capacity. I'm betting it's gross because that's how the current e-Golf was specified. In any case, the best guess is that it will have about 124-130 miles EPA range. Motor output is also increased from 85kW to 100kW.

Inside EVs story from May 2016.

InsideEVs refers to it as 2017 model year, but I'm betting that battery will not arrive in the US for the 2017 model year. Likely spring 2017 calendar year for 2018 model year.

miimura said:

The larger battery design is frozen and it will be 35.8kWh. The only question is whether that is gross or net usable capacity. I'm betting it's gross because that's how the current e-Golf was specified. In any case, the best guess is that it will have about 124-130 miles EPA range. Motor output is also increased from 85kW to 100kW.

Inside EVs story from May 2016.

InsideEVs refers to it as 2017 model year, but I'm betting that battery will not arrive in the US for the 2017 model year. Likely spring 2017 calendar year for 2018 model year.

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I would be more inclined to think that First production will have June, 2017 build dates, and hit US shores by late July or early August, for dealerships that have cleared their lots of remaining 2017 models. That said, VW did come out with a 1999.5 model Jetta, which was the beginning of the Mk IV Jetta series.

One thing is for certain, if VW is still not making money on the e-Golf, I can't see them being in any hurry to continue selling to all 48 or 50 states with the new e-Golf. The current 10 states might be the last to get new 2018 models, if all the 2017's aren't already sold. There will possibly be some smoking deals on some 2017's once the 2018's show up.

2018 electric motor is up from 115 HP to, I believe, 135 hp. More than enough.

JoulesThief said:

One thing is for certain, if VW is still not making money on the e-Golf

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The move may be based more on marketing and PR than hard economics. VW needs consumers to forget about Dieselgate and show they can complete with GM, Tesla, and Nissan.

JoulesThief said:

There will possibly be some smoking deals on some 2017's once the 2018's show up.

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Most definitely, although I have a feeling the 2017s may be in limited quantity or possibly skipped altogether (I still have not seen any hit the lots yet). There are still plenty of 2016s sitting and I doubt they'll all be gone by end of year.

miimura said:

In any case, the best guess is that it will have about 124-130 miles EPA range. Motor output is also increased from 85kW to 100kW.

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OK, reading the fine print it's "up to" 186 miles range. Well sure, I have "up to" 120 miles range if I can pull 6 miles/kWh but of course 80-90 is more realistic. So I think you're right on the money for EPA on the 2018 model.

It's not the 150+ I'd been hoping for, but still a game-changer for me since I can do round trip Santa Cruz to SF with a single quick charge or a 2-3 hour L2 stop.

Yep, hopefully we see these in 2018 because it sure would allow me and my wife to breathe easier when we go to SD and back. We just did the trip there and then back a week apart and the first time had about 20 miles to spare and the return 1 mile :O

A nearly 50% increase in range and a QC would get us to her parents in LA, too, without too much issue.

If that's the last eGolf we get in the US that may be the one we buy.

I am very much interested in the 2018, the 48% more added range will for certain make it easier for me to go up to the Eastern Sierra's in an electric car, without it having to be a Tesla. Los Angeles to Reno, though with elevation gains, will still be uncomfortable. The 2018 should be capable of 200 to 240 mile day with one charge in between, before needing an overnight stop and recharge.

You'll still kill 3 or 4 hours getting 24 to 28 kwh into the battery at 7.2kw and 240V, unless they go bigger with the charge controller to 10kwh on board, taking on 40 amps.

Range is being stretched from urban commuter to suburban commuter.

It's now being reported the 2018s will be here a bit sooner than expected. It'll be at the LA auto show in November and will hit the lots in spring.

In addition to range increase, the Infotainment system will finally have the 9.5" gesture controlled screen originally promised for the 2016s and offer Virtual cockpit as an available option

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, since techies seem to love electric cars, to see VW bring the new 2018 e-Golf to the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, First week of Jan, 2017.

Any recent confirmation of nationwide sale of e-Golf? I live in Florida and seriously considering it to replace my TDI when I turn it in next year. Have been reading a lot about the e-Golf and think it would work well for an around town duty (I have another car for travel). The dealer here is clueless!

Believe it when you see e-Golfs on your dealer's lot for sale.

When July 1st rolls around, info from VW will probably be released on the new version e-Golf with the 35.8 kwh battery and increased range.

Tony said:

Any recent confirmation of nationwide sale of e-Golf? I live in Florida and seriously considering it to replace my TDI when I turn it in next year. Have been reading a lot about the e-Golf and think it would work well for an around town duty (I have another car for travel). The dealer here is clueless!

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I wouldn't be surprised (but sad) if they withheld the e-Golf from national sales and waited for their dedicated electric vehicle platform to sell in all states.

http://insideevs.com/development-complete-volkswagens-dedicated-meb-electric-car-platform-first-meb-ev-coming-2020/

"I wouldn't be surprised (but sad) if they withheld the e-Golf from national sales and waited for their dedicated electric vehicle platform to sell in all states."

Chevy announced today that they're going with an all states sale of Bolt later this year. Nissan Will introduce the next generation Leaf for national sale in September. VW is late to the game already; if they abandon today's demand for the e-Golf, it'll be much harder to get buyers to switch brand later.

johnnylingo said:

I'm a bit skeptical on this 186 mile range figure. All the reports from a few months ago had it around 125, same as the 2017 i3, Focus, and Soul. VW could be setting themselves up for another consumer relations fiasco if they think pumping up the numbers to compete with the Bolt

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The 2019 e-Golf is apparently getting a 48kWh pack.

Tony said:

"I wouldn't be surprised (but sad) if they withheld the e-Golf from national sales and waited for their dedicated electric vehicle platform to sell in all states."

Chevy announced today that they're going with an all states sale of Bolt later this year. Nissan Will introduce the next generation Leaf for national sale in September. VW is late to the game already; if they abandon today's demand for the e-Golf, it'll be much harder to get buyers to switch brand later.

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To clarify your point(s), what Chevy did was move national roll out up by a month - original plan had always been September, they moved it up to August.

VW has made zero effort with the eGolf having only sold it in CARB states. I have no idea if they advertised it in those states, but AFAIK they spent no money advertising it nationally.

When the iD (or whatever they end up calling it) platform finally starts production, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of American will at that time believe those are the first BEV VWs. Everyone who has ever approached me about my car here in AZ was clueless that VW made an electric vehicle at all.

NeilBlanchard said:

johnnylingo said:

I'm a bit skeptical on this 186 mile range figure. All the reports from a few months ago had it around 125, same as the 2017 i3, Focus, and Soul. VW could be setting themselves up for another consumer relations fiasco if they think pumping up the numbers to compete with the Bolt

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The 2019 e-Golf is apparently getting a 48kWh pack.

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Following is a translation from the German paper Autobild relatively recently:

"Google Translate
Volkswagen Golf 8 electric: 420 km of autonomy and battery 48 kWh

Expected in 2019, the electric version of the Volkswagen Golf 8 should be equipped with a 48 kWh pack with up to 420 kilometers of range in NEDC cycle.

While the new e-Golf with 35.8 kWh battery has been available for only a few weeks, Volkswagen would already be preparing the sequel. According to the German site Autobild, the manufacturer should equip the next generation of its Volkswagen e-Golf, based on the eighth generation Golf, a 48 kWh battery pack allowing up to 420 kilometers of range in NEDC cycle.

This information is consistent with previous Builder's announcements. In February 2016, a representative of the builder promised that the e-Golf 8 would offer up to 300 kilometers of real autonomy (see our article).

204 horse power

According to Autobild, this increase in battery capacity would not be the only improvement on this e-Golf 8 which should also benefit from a new engine whose power would be increased to 152 kW (204 horsepower), the equivalent of the current Volkswagen Golf GTE. It is also 70 more horsepower than the last generation of the e-Golf whose power had already been increased compared to the first version (134 hp VS 115 hp)."

Hope it shows up in the US by end of '18 for nationwide sale; otherwise, sayonara VW.

While owning my Mercedes B I got a post card for an eGolf test drive and a prepaid credit card. When I totaled my B I remembered the dealer. I leased my eGolf there and the salesman told me that they never had an eGolf demo. I guess that is why my demo was canceled.

For sure the eGolf is a CARB orphan but I have been driving EV's since 2012 and I will not go back to an ICE car! My B was slightly nicer but the eGolf suits me.

Tony said:

Expected in 2019, the electric version of the Volkswagen Golf 8 should be equipped with a 48 kWh pack with up to 420 kilometers of range in NEDC cycle.

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I also noticed this over the weekend:

Vox: The electric cars available today, how much they cost, and how far they go — in one chart

It doesn't cite a source for "2018 e-Golf?", but 170 mile range would be about right for a 48 kWh pack.